Part of my research is about the political parties in each of the two cities I'm comparing. Here in Mumbai, that means I need to find out a lot about the Maharashtra Navnirman Sena, especially. It is not one of the big parties-- it was just formed in 2006 kind of as an off-shoot of the Shiv Sena. The mayor of Mumbai right now is from Shiv Sena, but the Maharashtra government is currently Congress dominated. The two parties go back and forth as ruling party and opposition, but in Mumbai, Shiv Sena is definitely the more powerful of the two.
MNS was formed by Raj Thackeray, who is the nephew of Bal Thackeray, leader of Shiv Sena. They had an inter-family conflict. And while the Shiv Sena has been reaching out to include non-Maharashtrans in its rhetoric, platform and representatives, MNS is very focused on the Maharashtra identity in particular, which means they really emphasize the Marathi language, want job reservations for Maharashtrans and constantly speak out against North Indian migrants. In previous decades the Shiv Sena used to do this stuff too-- against Gujaratis, then South Indians-- but lately they are more inclusive, probably because they realize that to keep power in Mumbai, a city that is only about 40% Maharashtran, they need a broader coalition of supporters. Anyway, both have a lot in common too-- they are very Hindu nationalist-- but the MNS is notable for its anti-migrant voice in Mumbai politics.
All this is background to explain a pretty interesting interview I had yesterday with an MNS party activist and district president named Saira. This was my second interview with her. She is an interesting lady. Middle aged-- probably around 50. She is Hindu and has been a widow for 8 years. Her husband was Muslim. She was on the verge of telling me problems she had relating to that (besides the normal family stuff you would expect, she said) but then decided against it. I hope to see her again though, so maybe she will tell me sometime.
Yesterday she talked about what she believes the MNS stands for, how she came to join them and what kind of work she does for them. The party work is not her full time job-- she does it on the side. She also gave me a really good picture of the way parties operate in the slums. (I have been reading a book about Mumbai called Maximum City by Suketu Mehta that also describes this topic in terrific detail).
Saira is the only MNS supporter I have talked to in a lot of detail so far, although I've had passing conversations with 4 or 5 Maharashtrans who like the MNS. They have been people like my dabba-wala (food delivery person) and a random girl I sat next to on the train. One thing I have noticed is that all of them have seemed pretty well-reasoned; not hot-headed like the speeches that Raj Thackeray makes about Mumbai's problems. They support what I consider to be an extremist party, but they themselves didn't strike me as extremist in political outlook or personality, and they also weren't hateful toward North Indians. For example, many of Saira's neighbors are North Indians, and she is friendly with them. They just like the fact that the MNS does a lot of grassroots-level work for people like them, and is trying to help ensure that their children will find jobs. I'm not sure how they reconcile it with the riots and violence against North Indians that the MNS has instigated in Mumbai, or even whether that is something to reconcile for them. I find this to be such a contrast to my own process of figuring out what politics I support. Its a stark reminder that my preferences are overwhelming driven by things like ideology and inclusiveness rather than policy specifics or any work that gets done on the ground.
In my previous conversation with Saira, she emphasized that far and away the most important political issue of the moment for her is jobs. How are young people in Mumbai going to get jobs when so many people from outside come and take them? Yesterday, she talked about more nitty gritty party stuff. A lot of what she described sounded like a well-functioning system of patronage to me. The party takes care of you-- gets you jobs, gets your kids into school, gets you a ration card, etc-- and you vote for the party. If the party you support is in power, its much easier to get the things you need.
She also told an interesting story about how she got involved in politics in the first place. Basically, she got into a fight (lafra) with a woman and was taken to the police station. The other woman was a Congress party activist, and from what Saira described, kind of a neighborhood bully. The woman was able to call in her boss, the Congress incumbent from that area, to help her out at the station. But the police inspector happened to be sympathetic to Saira. He pointed out to her that in order to have a similar level of protection, she too would have to ally herself with a party. And so she started working for Shiv Sena because it was the only real opposition to Congress. And later, she joined MNS.
I have posted my interview with Saira here.